Friday, January 23, 2009

I Know I'm Feeling It

As you prolly know, Forbes has released a "25 Most Influential Liberals in the Media" list. Here it is:
  1. Paul Krugman
  2. Arianna Huffington
  3. Fred Hiatt
  4. Thomas Friedman
  5. Jon Stewart
  6. Oprah Winfrey
  7. Rachel Maddow
  8. Josh Marshall
  9. David Shipley
  10. Markos Moulitsas Zuniga (Kos)
  11. Fareed Zakaria
  12. Chris Matthews
  13. Bill Moyers
  14. Christopher Hitchens
  15. Maureen Dowd
  16. Matthew Yglesias
  17. Hendrick Hertzberg
  18. Glenn Greenwald
  19. Andrew Sullivan
  20. Gerald Seib
  21. James Fallows
  22. Ezra Klein
  23. Kevin Drum
  24. Kurt Andersen
  25. Michael Pollan
How many liberals do you count? Or, I guess this more a matter of identifying the negative, since I don't know who some of the people are. Hiatt, Friedman, Matthews, Hitchens, Dowd, and Sullivan do not belong for suresies. Who do you got?

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised you aren't on there!

dr said...

I think Chris Matthews is legitimately a liberal right now. He used to espouse a loud mouthed variety of Broderism (maybe call it 'low broderism'), but seems to have accepted the new media critique of journalistic objectivity and embraced a kind of working class populism.

dave3544 said...

Except I seem to remember some real man-love for Fred Thompson and some real man-hate for Hillary. I've always thought Matthews is all about personality, rather than policy.

dr said...

He came around on Clinton once she started doing shots. And he turned on Thompson once he turned out to be such a wet noodle. But, yeah, you're right that his opinions of politicians has more to do with personality (or, maybe, theatricality) than with principle. All and still, he takes a pretty liberal line on most issues nowadays.

lex dexter said...

not to be That Guy, but i think we need to ask what definition of 'liberal' we're accepting here. to me, libertarians qualify as capital-L liberal, so, sure, Sullivan belongs, as do Third Way-ers like Friedman and Zakaria. and fuck, i'd certainly locate my man Chris Matthews within a long Stevenson-Kennedy-Tip O'Neil liberal-democrat tradition, which (let's be honest) has never excluded misogynists.

but if we're taking liberal to mean "Left" in some sloppy way, obviously things change. where's Dean Baker, who called the economic crisis way early and is name-checked by everybody? where's anybody from the Economic Policy Institute? where's Bob Kuttner, whose "Obama's Challenge" has been super-influential on actual human people besides me?

and ginger, i'm surprised Dave's not there, too. but at a deeper level, and despite the acts of collaboration-ism that our work in le labor movement requires, dave is actually left-er-than-liberal. really. even he acknowledges this in moments of weakness.